S1 VVC - Why only 143bhp, when the S2 has 160???

S1 VVC - Why only 143bhp, when the S2 has 160???

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James.Burton

Original Poster:

25 posts

95 months

Yesterday (08:23)
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Is there and easy upgrade?

Also how far can you push the power up (I gather getting around 180 is quite feasible) before you need to upgrade other drive train / suspension parts to take the load?

Lotobear

6,689 posts

131 months

Yesterday (09:39)
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You should really direct this question to Dave Andrews who is a member and poster on these boards - he's the K series guru.

As I understand it you are limited with tuning options on the VVC and would be better going for a non VVC engine with cams and porting

itcaptainslow

3,731 posts

139 months

Yesterday (10:19)
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S1 uses the older MEM2J engine ECU, the S2 uses MEMS3. It’s not impossible to convert over but requires a bit of work, including a new engine wiring harness, coil packs and cam cover.

From memory there are also minute differences in the cylinder head, but as for what precisely these are, someone like Dave is best placed to advise.

JACK6284

331 posts

226 months

Yesterday (18:32)
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Don't forget that the S1 111s is significantly lighter too

steve_n

412 posts

205 months

Yesterday (18:41)
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JACK6284 said:
Don't forget that the S1 111s is significantly lighter too
Not really compared to an S2 Rover.

JACK6284

331 posts

226 months

Yesterday (20:03)
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S2 111s also has the girly longer geared gearbox not the close ratio box in the S1

Lotobear

6,689 posts

131 months

Yesterday (21:02)
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JACK6284 said:
S2 111s also has the girly longer geared gearbox not the close ratio box in the S1
It does but it can pull the higher gears/FD with the extra power and you get better motorway manners, and cheaper road tax too

JACK6284

331 posts

226 months

Thanks to the funding from Vauxhall the S2 elise was designed to be appealing to a wider customer base. The likes of Grahame Norton, Alan Carr etc. Jeremy Clarkson’s ex wife had one too. My first Elise was a starlight black S2 111S and I thought it was the dogs dangles

Mr E

21,852 posts

262 months

JACK6284 said:
My first Elise was a starlight black S2 111S and I thought it was the dogs dangles
My current elise is a starlight black 111S. I can confirm it’s the dogs dangles.

steve_n

412 posts

205 months

JACK6284 said:
S2 111s also has the girly longer geared gearbox not the close ratio box in the S1
It is too long having tried a 111S. To be honest sitting at 3-4krpm on the motorway is no chore with a K Series, it's in its happy place (especially with cams). Mine is a standard S2 with the close ratio gearbox but running 165hp on ITBs/cams. Best of both worlds and not much heavier than an S1.