Macan EV

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rkwm1

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1,478 posts

105 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Word is car will be unveiled at the end of the year, with deliveries starting mid next year.

The rear doesn't look great to me.

600hp for the Turbo model will be good though.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/macan/361170...

86

2,856 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Cancelled my deposit. Based upon Taycan they will fall in value like a stone. Taycan’s have had too many issues as well. Not a great looker either

Porsche991992

24 posts

78 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Tax advantages if any will play a role , Brand power will pay a part , I wager will be better then most EV out there ie hatch back group and mini SUV , Will do great if interior is luxurious as opposed to Taycans ie material and seats etc . And final but most relevant how will it be priced .I am confident most Porsche owners are both the comfortable in life and teh aspirational in life ==both will not be spending silly money . Obviously there are exceptions

finmac

1,539 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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Have had a deposit on one of these for near 2 years. Seeing the photos of the daft looking cut away rear and potentially no towbar option leaves me totally cold. It seems to be a “lifestyle” type of thing rather than a particularly useful family car. The cut away rear loses valuable boot/interior space. Missed opportunity by Porsche. And that’s all before I think about the residuals…. Surely these potentially can’t be as disastrous as the Taycan?

sam.rog

793 posts

81 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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How much do we think it will cost.
60, 70, 80 before options. I think it needs to start with a 5 for it to be a success. After all you’ll need to add 15k worth of options to get what comes standard in its rivals.

finmac

1,539 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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I’d say there’s not a chance it will start with a 5! Reckon the 600 BHP one will probs start with an 8 and that’s before the inevitable goodies being added (so basically a £90K car potentially)

rkwm1

Original Poster:

1,478 posts

105 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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finmac said:
I’d say there’s not a chance it will start with a 5! Reckon the 600 BHP one will probs start with an 8 and that’s before the inevitable goodies being added (so basically a £90K car potentially)
I'd say 120k for well optioned car. Porsche aren't been shy with their pricing atm.

xxxx5

144 posts

60 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Had a "deposit" for 2 years and waiting, but if there is no tow bar option I am out and will look at Q4 Etron or BMW IX2 coupe (out later next year). Both offer a tow bar option.

Slightly worried on pricing and residuals given the issue with Taycan.

Grantstown

1,013 posts

90 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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I’m not sure why anyone would want one of these over a Taycan estate, especially if there are loads of 2nd hand bargains. I suppose some people are of the mindset that they need a brand new car every 2-3 years.

jgrewal

771 posts

50 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Not impressed at least the Taycan went for a dramatic styling change for the first EV Porsche. This doesn't have anything standout?

Terry Winks

1,265 posts

16 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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finmac said:
I’d say there’s not a chance it will start with a 5! Reckon the 600 BHP one will probs start with an 8 and that’s before the inevitable goodies being added (so basically a £90K car potentially)
And this is why Porsche have decided to run them alongside the current ICE lineup, so you can still have you're entry level Macan for £53k (which until inflation started with a 4) and the EV one starts with a 7. At one point it was going to be ICE out EV in then everyone would have been up in arms at the £20k price jump.

Terry Winks

1,265 posts

16 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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finmac said:
Have had a deposit on one of these for near 2 years. Seeing the photos of the daft looking cut away rear and potentially no towbar option leaves me totally cold. It seems to be a “lifestyle” type of thing rather than a particularly useful family car. The cut away rear loses valuable boot/interior space. Missed opportunity by Porsche. And that’s all before I think about the residuals…. Surely these potentially can’t be as disastrous as the Taycan?
Looks like they have gone down the road of the Cayenne Coupe, which I never understand, why would you want something this big and not have the practicality.

Robbo66

3,841 posts

236 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Tax advantages at start...then all lost at the sale...

hugely expensive, electric costs up, no WDA for second hand so useless for business owners to consider, VAT due back on sale, depreciation stratospheric, no infrastructure, range anxiety and will be outdated sooner than a Betamax cassette.

This was as blindingly obvious back then as it is now.

No one, and I mean no one wants second-hand EV...unless a little urban runaround as a private purchase.

DJMC

3,464 posts

106 months

Friday 13th October 2023
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Nowhere near enough lithium being mined to cater for EV production, and the replacement batteries needed in 10 years.

Electric is dead.

sam.rog

793 posts

81 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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DJMC said:
Nowhere near enough lithium being mined to cater for EV production, and the replacement batteries needed in 10 years.

Electric is dead.
You better ring up all the manufacturers and let them know. I can’t believe they didn’t spot this massive error.

Porsche991992

24 posts

78 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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Agreed well said , Alas the Ministry of Peace Truth Love and Plenty will have lots to say about ICE . -I still like Mad Max movie ( Mel Gibson version ) . Guess have to wait until next year to see what the general election thought process is


Robbo66 said:
Tax advantages at start...then all lost at the sale...

hugely expensive, electric costs up, no WDA for second hand so useless for business owners to consider, VAT due back on sale, depreciation stratospheric, no infrastructure, range anxiety and will be outdated sooner than a Betamax cassette.

This was as blindingly obvious back then as it is now.

No one, and I mean no one wants second-hand EV...unless a little urban runaround as a private purchase.

DMZ

1,424 posts

163 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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To my eyes it looks a lot better than a Taycan and might even have some space in it. It will no doubt be very expensive for what it is and will depreciate like a rock so would I buy one… I think no. But let’s see when it’s actually launched with all the details.

Cheib

23,419 posts

178 months

Saturday 14th October 2023
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DJMC said:
Nowhere near enough lithium being mined to cater for EV production, and the replacement batteries needed in 10 years.

Electric is dead.
It is several years from being mined but it seems there’s a potential huge Lithium discovery in the US.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/lithium-discov...

DJMC

3,464 posts

106 months

Monday 16th October 2023
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sam.rog said:
You better ring up all the manufacturers and let them know. I can’t believe they didn’t spot this massive error.
They didn't watch Panorama?

All the dealerships we visited recently, including Porsche, tell us EVs won't work.

Zero petrol, hydrogen, ammonia... lots of better ways than electricity, all zero CO2 emissions.

Macan EV delayed...

majordad

3,605 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th October 2023
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What do you mean no tow bar option?