The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

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vaud

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51,138 posts

158 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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While PigInAPoke continues his fine run of race threads, I will continue in my mission to encourage wild speculation backed by armchair experts and the occasional PH expert who has links to F1.

Off we go...

DanielSan

18,913 posts

170 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Lawson in the Racing Bull by Silverstone as Ricciardo is bumped upto the top team. Lawson then announced for the top team for a 25 seat.

This is only a prediction by the way

Still Mulling

12,780 posts

180 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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One way or another:

During 2024 season:

- Sargent out
- Lawson in
- Ricciardo not in a Racing Bull
- Perez not in a Red Bull

By 2025 start:

- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
- Albon away from Williams to a more competitive team
- Norris leaves McLaren if not competing for race wins

Mark-C

5,318 posts

208 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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What contracts expire at the end of 2024? I think that will drive change.

Not knowing the above I'd go for Sargeant, Hulk and Bottas being gone at start of 2025 ....

Leithen

11,314 posts

270 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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If Hulk goes, what of Magnussen?

the-norseman

12,746 posts

174 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Mark-C said:
What contracts expire at the end of 2024?
Think 2024 is the expiry for below, correct me if I'm wrong.

Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Ocon
Alonso
Gasly
Zhou
Danny R
Yuki T
Albon
Sargeant
Mag
Hulk

bobthemonkey

3,871 posts

219 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Still Mulling said:
- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.

Shame it looks like active suspension has been canned (for those of us who still think the FW14B was the coolest thing this side of Concorde) but new engine regs, active aero and a boatload of money from Stuttgart should liven things up a little - or reset the playing field for a while.

the-norseman

12,746 posts

174 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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bobthemonkey said:
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.
Audi

Pflanzgarten

4,315 posts

28 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Apparently Alpine are going using 23 & 24 to pick which of their drivers to to lead with going forward so either Ocon or Gasly will be out of that seat.

A couple of deleted tweets however has rumours of Saintz moving to Audi and Gasly taking his seat at Ferrari alongside Leclerc-his manager was with Fred the other weekend too.

Milkyway

9,608 posts

56 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Logan Sargeant finally reaches double figures in the WDC.

bobthemonkey

3,871 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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the-norseman said:
Audi
Audi were last rumoured to be trying to bail out entirely!

Killer2005

19,749 posts

231 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2023/12/05/655f1b37e...

Spanish GP potentially moving to Madrid.

Muzzer79

10,400 posts

190 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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bobthemonkey said:
Still Mulling said:
- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.

Shame it looks like active suspension has been canned (for those of us who still think the FW14B was the coolest thing this side of Concorde) but new engine regs, active aero and a boatload of money from Stuttgart should liven things up a little - or reset the playing field for a while.
Money from Stuttgart isn't the issue. The cost cap sees to the fact that cash is no longer king at the top teams - they can't spend themselves to victory.

New regs tend to lead to a new team winning but it's entirely feasible that Red Bull get it right again.

bobthemonkey said:
the-norseman said:
Audi
Audi were last rumoured to be trying to bail out entirely!
I believe that rumour has been quashed now.

BrettMRC

4,235 posts

163 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Assuming the Merc doesn't cut it then I think we could see Hamilton retire at the end of 2025, or move back to McLaren. (Or possibly to Aston Martin)


Sandpit Steve

10,764 posts

77 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Killer2005 said:
https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2023/12/05/655f1b37e...

Spanish GP potentially moving to Madrid.
Replacing a proper track with another bloody street circuit. No thanks.

TikTak

1,587 posts

22 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Sargeant to not last past Spain after 5 retirements, no points and Albon out qualifying him 10-0.

LH to call time on his career after Merc narrowly beat Alpine to 6th in the constructors after Ferrari, McLaren, Aston and Racing Bulls leapfrog them.

Lawson get's his seat back after Danny Ric replaces Checo in the RB at Imola after the Mexican has a public breakdown in Miami after only scoring 12 points so far.

Track limits are the star of the show at Red Bull Ring yet again, with every car in Q3 having every set lap deleted.

anonymous-user

57 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Alonso to retire at the end of 2024.

Sainz to move to Sauber to join Bottas ready for when they become Audi in 2026.

Ricciardo to still be hopeless and not get the second Red Bull seat. He either goes to Aston to replace Alonso or Haas to replace Magnussen.

Alex Albon to get the now empty Ferrari seat to be team mate to "Monégasque" Leclerc

Mercedes to keep Hamilton and Russell.

McLaren to keep Norris and Piastri

Max becomes the first driver in history to win every single race in the season.


GCH

4,010 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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I reckon Vettel could come back....although where, I'm not sure.

Muzzer79

10,400 posts

190 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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GCH said:
I reckon Vettel could come back....although where, I'm not sure.
Maybe Audi.

Depends if they can attract a name. They'll want an established driver and a young, fast driver.

The German-ness helps, of course.

Unlikely though. He's got a young family and squillions, doesn't seem to need F1 to keep him satiated and probably knows that he hasn't been the force he was since he left Red Bull.

I reckon he'll turn up in WEC, if anywhere in a driving capacity.

Wouldn't put it past him to turn up at Red Bull in a Helmut Marko-style role, focusing solely on young drivers.

GCH

4,010 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
Unlikely though. He's got a young family and squillions, doesn't seem to need F1 to keep him satiated and probably knows that he hasn't been the force he was since he left Red Bull.
True, but the love of it is clearly still there. Like Alonso, he certainly had more than a few frustrating years which no doubt factored in the decision to quit. Wouldn't be the first to come back after a sabbatical with a renewed and refreshed change of perspective. He is 36, which back in the day would be well on the retirement heap, but as others have shown is not the case anymore. There is also WEC and stuff and he could easily do that first for a year, and then come back to F1.

He was quite candid when asked directly about it in this snippet... https://youtu.be/T0vCfduCTM0?si=AmQ8EVye_FymVRwW&a...

Will be interesting to see if he does.