Are Bearman and Antonelli that good
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F2 tends to be very much based upon which team you drive for somewhat more so than in F3 years ago. Secondly drivers related to big F1 teams get significant time on the multi million pound simulators and with trainers and psychologists. This sorts out the quality and in many ways shows that F1 is way more about income than talent with a salary cap now in place.
super7 said:
Bearman was on pole in Jeddah, won in Austria, was leading in Imola….. so yes!!
F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
When watching Victor Martins And Dennis Hauger Seem much better drivers, but don't seem to get the F1 opportunity F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
super7 said:
Bearman was on pole in Jeddah, won in Austria, was leading in Imola….. so yes!!
F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
Does F2 have that many different winners in a season? F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
Sounds great. Can we just scrap F1 and have that as the top rung so we get more interesting racing?
Jokes aside, is it a bigger field and less variation between cars that makes the difference?
belleair302 said:
F2 tends to be very much based upon which team you drive for somewhat more so than in F3 years ago. Secondly drivers related to big F1 teams get significant time on the multi million pound simulators and with trainers and psychologists. This sorts out the quality and in many ways shows that F1 is way more about income than talent with a salary cap now in place.
Salary cap? Adrian W said:
super7 said:
Bearman was on pole in Jeddah, won in Austria, was leading in Imola….. so yes!!
F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
When watching Victor Martins And Dennis Hauger Seem much better drivers, but don't seem to get the F1 opportunity F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
Historically the real GP2/F2 hot shots get lifted out of the category after just one season - Leclerc, Russell, Hamilton, Piastri, Rosberg & Norris
Of the longer F2 incumbents Gasly had 3 seasons before heading to F1. Grosjean, Maldonado & Palmer (Jolyon) each had 4 seasons before their F1 conversions.
Outliers - Nissany did 5 seasons of F2 and thankfully, despite testing, never made it onto an F1 grid.
Latifi hit the big time after 6 seasons of F2.
I rest my case your Honour.
Six different feature race winners from eight races so far this season, and I think 12 winners overall including sprint races. It’s all been rather weird with the new cars for ‘24, many of the teams have been struggling to get them properly dialled in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Formula_2_Cha...
The F1 teams really put their junior drivers to work, they’ll be doing a lot of simulator time and track time in old cars, as well as extensive physical and physiological training. We got to see Bearman step up into F1 when Sainz was sick, with a very creditable performance at a difficult circuit in Jeddah, and if Toto thinks that Antonelli is the next Lewis Hamilton then I’m not going to disagree. The teams will have very good benchmarks for their performance against the regular race drivers and sim drivers, and wouldn’t be putting the resources in if they didn’t think they were up to being future F1 drivers.
Mercedes could even go with Antonelli straight into the main team next season as an 18-year-old, which would be the biggest vote of confidence in a rookie since McLaren gave one Lewis Hamilton a drive back in 2007. The only thing that would seemingly get in the way of that promotion, is if the team can get Max Verstappen’s signature.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Formula_2_Cha...
The F1 teams really put their junior drivers to work, they’ll be doing a lot of simulator time and track time in old cars, as well as extensive physical and physiological training. We got to see Bearman step up into F1 when Sainz was sick, with a very creditable performance at a difficult circuit in Jeddah, and if Toto thinks that Antonelli is the next Lewis Hamilton then I’m not going to disagree. The teams will have very good benchmarks for their performance against the regular race drivers and sim drivers, and wouldn’t be putting the resources in if they didn’t think they were up to being future F1 drivers.
Mercedes could even go with Antonelli straight into the main team next season as an 18-year-old, which would be the biggest vote of confidence in a rookie since McLaren gave one Lewis Hamilton a drive back in 2007. The only thing that would seemingly get in the way of that promotion, is if the team can get Max Verstappen’s signature.
moffspeed said:
Adrian W said:
super7 said:
Bearman was on pole in Jeddah, won in Austria, was leading in Imola….. so yes!!
F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
When watching Victor Martins And Dennis Hauger Seem much better drivers, but don't seem to get the F1 opportunity F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
Historically the real GP2/F2 hot shots get lifted out of the category after just one season - Leclerc, Russell, Hamilton, Piastri, Rosberg & Norris
Of the longer F2 incumbents Gasly had 3 seasons before heading to F1. Grosjean, Maldonado & Palmer (Jolyon) each had 4 seasons before their F1 conversions.
Outliers - Nissany did 5 seasons of F2 and thankfully, despite testing, never made it onto an F1 grid.
Latifi hit the big time after 6 seasons of F2.
I rest my case your Honour.
They are damn good. Bearman has provided more evidence, Antonelli looks like he’s got the goods too.
The proviso is that F2 simply can’t guarantee anything. The new car has only made things more unpredictable.
Hadjar is proving that he’s got the perfect radio technique for F1, but that makes him equally unlikeable IMHO. He’s quick though as is Aron, Borteletto, Maloney, etc, etc.
The proviso is that F2 simply can’t guarantee anything. The new car has only made things more unpredictable.
Hadjar is proving that he’s got the perfect radio technique for F1, but that makes him equally unlikeable IMHO. He’s quick though as is Aron, Borteletto, Maloney, etc, etc.
Adrian W said:
super7 said:
Bearman was on pole in Jeddah, won in Austria, was leading in Imola….. so yes!!
F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
When watching Victor Martins And Dennis Hauger Seem much better drivers, but don't seem to get the F1 opportunity F2 is Very competiitve… your good if you get only one win in a season. He had 4 last year…
The British press are amazing to build up a talent (yes they have talent too) usually only so they can bring them down a peg or two later.
It sells tabloids or click bait these days.
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